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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: fattysquirrel on August 23, 2011, 07:00 pm
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Well it certainly didn't take long for someone to try and screw the system, while at the same time profiting.
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/7269
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/2290
He has these posted all over SR in different categories. I know this newly implemented system isn't perfect. A person could go and purchase a bunch of very low cost items/services to boost their buyer stats up. Making it look like they have had many successful transactions without any refunds or auto finalizes. Maybe the buyer stats should only track transactions that are over a certain value? 1 bitcoin, 2 maybe? possibly a USD value would be better since the bitcoin can fluctuate quite a bit at times. But something like Johnnycash is doing is just ridiculous. Seems ban worthy to me.
Take care,
fattysquirrel
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I just noticed he even has it listed in the 'forgeries' category, how appropriate...
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Yup. Looks like we need more stats. May be BTC amount debited from buyer (not the actual amount, but something rounded to certain figures, for example <1BTC, 1..5 BTC, 5..20 and so on)
That man of course will have his ban, but we still have some ebooks and site invites which new buyers (and even more possibly scammers) will use for the same thing: to bump up their stats. Though may be it is all much less drammatic than it seems.
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Forgeries INCREASE BUYER STATS ฿0.27 US US add to cart
Ecstasy INCREASE BUYER STATS ฿0.27 US US add to cart
Opioids INCREASE BUYER STATS ฿0.27 US US add to cart
Psychedelics INCREASE BUYER STATS ฿0.27 US US add to cart
Services INCREASE BUYER STATS ฿0.27 YOU ME add to cart
kill it with fire before it spreads elsewhere
blast it with piss to extinguish
no exceptions
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That is just to f'ing funny.
Didn't take what? Half a day?
You got to keep looking behind your back around here.
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Yup. Where there's a scammer, they will find a way. Hopefully SR will figure out some way of blocking fake buys.
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Ban his account. Or make it a prohibited listing category and tell the seller if they list this they will be banned, to at least give a chance to wise up. At 10btc to set the thing up he will have to sell 40 of those just to break even.
We need 0 tolerance on this one, ban if they get one warning or complete one sale of this product. - they will keep losing money and give up. Bullshit like this must not be tolerated.
Good job bringing this to the forums right away.
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Good job bringing this to the forums right away.
+1
thanks to those who noticed. I contacted Silk Road before coming in here, as time was of the essence.
Zero tolerance for this type of bullshit on our market
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i knew there would be an uproar about my listings, but the only thing I want to say is that my listings are no different than the demonoid invites... porno pictures....secret recipes... keezy donations...and other nonsense items that are overlooked here. I was at least being honest about what I was selling... just stats...and I only would have sold 1 stat per user who had zero... just so they would have 1 in their history...seems to me like there is more outrage about selling a simple stat than selling weapons that were supposedly not allowed from the begining!
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i knew there would be an uproar about my listings, but the only thing I want to say is that my listings are no different than the demonoid invites... porno pictures....secret recipes... keezy donations...and other nonsense items that are overlooked here. I was at least being honest about what I was selling... just stats...and I only would have sold 1 stat per user who had zero... just so they would have 1 in their history...seems to me like there is more outrage about selling a simple stat than selling weapons that were supposedly not allowed from the begining!
your listings are entirely different than what you mentioned, what are you smoking?
don't try to rationalize blue with yellow. this isn't a fucking color wheel.
what you're doing causes more immediate damage to the whole market.
if you don't like the system you're hiding something, and YOU are dishonest.
furthermore you're being blatant about it putting it in every category possible.
that's NOT like your listings, again. you're going to be lucky if you survive a permanent ban - at best.
take your head out of your ass and pull your listings. your credibility is already questionable as a vendor from doing that.
your estimated intelligence quotient also just dropped like an old nutsack.
asshat.
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one more note would be if Silk added "last item purchased" to buyer stats, then a listing like what I had could be used to scam "would-be" scammers, by exposing them as buying stats directly.
the listings have been removed by silk, and I have no problem with that. I just saw an opening in the new system, and took my chance.
"last item purchased" would fix the only real hole in the new system!
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one more note would be if Silk added "last item purchased" to buyer stats, then a listing like what I had could be used to scam "would-be" scammers, by exposing them as buying stats directly.
the listings have been removed by silk, and I have no problem with that. I just saw an opening in the new system, and took my chance.
"last item purchased" would fix the only real hole in the new system!
why didn't you contact Silk Road before jumping on posting all of this?
that was not an opening, that was your foolish action. you took a risky chance.
now you're marked as someone a seller wont want to deal with.
me for one.
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your listings are entirely different than what you mentioned, what are you smoking?
don't try to rationalize blue with yellow. this isn't a fucking color wheel.
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since just stats is so much different, Maybe I should put up a listing for just a simple envelope mailed wherever you want. that would be a cheap option for someone who wants to have some buyer history, and actually get something for their BTC. I just thought I should ask your thoughts, as you seem to be the authority on right and wrong on a drug forum. Scam buyers are always going to buy whatever cheap nonsense is available to get their stats.
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"Keasy" and johnnycash both took down those listings yesterday.
They are no longer an issue at the moment so let's try to not get to uptight about this.
They both took a chance that an approach might work in their favor and the community has spoken against both of their attempts.
So for at the moment I consider it a dead issue.
Nice try guys but the majority is gonna rule this type of community.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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I think he offered a pretty good solution with his "last item purchased" idea. Maybe it could just be "Value of last item purchased" or something like that.
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Why the hell not "overhaul value of items purchased"? Wouldn't it be much more adequate stat?
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just make the buyer stats show items purchased from same seller vs unique purchases